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	<title>Comments on: Exciting news for Australian Android users! (Sort of.)</title>
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		<title>By: The Surgery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Android Cupcake &#8211; a welcome improvement to the HTC Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Surgery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Android Cupcake &#8211; a welcome improvement to the HTC Dream</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dr Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update Peter.  Unfortunately neither FRING nor NIMBUZZ are available in the Australian Android Market yet.  I&#039;ll keep trying though, FRING looks good, Graeme and Andrew were playing with it last night after the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Peter.  Unfortunately neither FRING nor NIMBUZZ are available in the Australian Android Market yet.  I&#8217;ll keep trying though, FRING looks good, Graeme and Andrew were playing with it last night after the show.</p>
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		<title>By: peterh_oz</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gday Dr Ron

I have a fix for your skype-lite problem.  Use FRING or NIMBUZZ.  Both have skype built-in, and both use the proper voip client to make calls.  They also have SIP plus their own client too (plus MSN, yahoo, ICQ, AIM and google-talk, but these are text-messaging/chat only).

Works like a dream (pardon the pun!) and is supported by many more handsets.

With the use of skype for calls and messaging, plus SIP for calls to landlines (untimed 10c calls are very widespread in Australia as you know), I have been able to slash my mobile phone bill by around 2/3rds.

Be aware that some mobile phone companies don&#039;t allow SIP/VoIP (remember the Optus story late last year) but mine (Exetel) not only allows it, but encourages it.  They tell their customers about fring and encourage its use.  In fact the CEO brags about the fact he lives exclusively on fring/SIP on his mobile.  They have even written their own client for SIP on nokia phones!  One of the differences between a phone company which sells internet, and an ISP/Communications company I guess.  One sells calls, the other sells communications.

Cheers
Peter H
SeeknBuy.com.au
(Exetel Agent N170)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gday Dr Ron</p>
<p>I have a fix for your skype-lite problem.  Use FRING or NIMBUZZ.  Both have skype built-in, and both use the proper voip client to make calls.  They also have SIP plus their own client too (plus MSN, yahoo, ICQ, AIM and google-talk, but these are text-messaging/chat only).</p>
<p>Works like a dream (pardon the pun!) and is supported by many more handsets.</p>
<p>With the use of skype for calls and messaging, plus SIP for calls to landlines (untimed 10c calls are very widespread in Australia as you know), I have been able to slash my mobile phone bill by around 2/3rds.</p>
<p>Be aware that some mobile phone companies don&#8217;t allow SIP/VoIP (remember the Optus story late last year) but mine (Exetel) not only allows it, but encourages it.  They tell their customers about fring and encourage its use.  In fact the CEO brags about the fact he lives exclusively on fring/SIP on his mobile.  They have even written their own client for SIP on nokia phones!  One of the differences between a phone company which sells internet, and an ISP/Communications company I guess.  One sells calls, the other sells communications.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Peter H<br />
SeeknBuy.com.au<br />
(Exetel Agent N170)</p>
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