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Exciting news for Australian Android users! (Sort of.)
3 Comments · Posted by Dr Ron in Blogging, HTC, Internet, Social Networking, Technical
Google Latitude
In March I blogged about my new HTC Google Phone and was disappointed, at the time, that Latitude wasn’t supported in Google Maps.
Low and behold, the Google Maps on my HTC Dream updated itself a few weeks ago. Imagine my surprise when I saw a new “Latitude” button in Google Maps! Hurrah!

I already had Latitude set up through a conventional web browser. The HTC Dream detected my Google account details and settings, and I could see the location of all my “friends” straight away. Awesome! You can set Latitude to manually or automatically update your location, based on GPS latitude/longitude or wireless and telephone networks. It seems to work well.
Skype Lite Beta
The other exciting development is the addition of Skype Lite Beta to the Australian Android Market.
Users of Android-powered devices can download and install applications from the online Android Market, but Skype is a new addition in Australia and has only just made itself available for download in the last week or so.

I was very excited when Skype Lite Beta finally appeared in my Android Market search results. I was pleased by the quick download and installation; a bit confused that it needed my mobile telephone number at the login screen; but impressed that all my contacts were instantly viewable with my pre-existing Skype account details, and that I could see all my contacts’ statuses (online, offline, busy and so on).

BUT when I made a call to a logged-on Skype contact (not using “Skype Out”), the HTC Dream set up a phone call to a Sydney number. Huh? Then I heard ‘ring ring’ and the call was answered at the other end (by my Skype contact, on a Skype client, on her PC in West Melbourne).
We chatted for some time, and the quality was good, but I was a bit confused that my HTC Dream had made a phone call to some type of gateway. Must be a default setting, I thought, something I can easily change.
But this seems to be by design, and it’s not possible to change. Read the not-so-fine-print on Skype’s webpage:
“With Skype on your mobile, you’ll always know when your friends are online and you can call them for the cost of a local call (or use your inclusive minutes from your mobile plan).”
And this:
“You can call friends and family from the bus or while you’re sipping a latte in your favorite coffee shop – wherever they are in the world. Best of all, your phone will work as normal – no WiFi or 3G connection needed – and you won’t need to change operator.”
Huh?!?!! If I’m connected to a Wi-Fi hotspot, or an HSDPA telephone network, why can’t I use good old-fashioned “voice-over-IP” Skype to talk to my contacts, and chew-up some of that 3GB on my new data plan?
Then I realised … okay … that’s why Skype Lite Beta needs your mobile telephone number at the login screen. When the Skype client sets-up a call to the Skype gateway (which BTW is a Sydney indial range, 02 8005 89xx), the Skype server marries your incoming call with your login, and connects your circuit-switched call on the phone network to an outbound Skype call from the Skype data centre.
It also explains how those mysterious “Skype minutes” work on your mobile phone plan. It’s got nothing to do with bandwidth used for voice traffic, and everything to do with call minutes to and from your local Skype gateway.
Now I’ve looked through all the settings and configuration screens, and I can’t find anything that lets you choose packet-switched calls instead of circuit-switched calls. Surely the software supports native Skype VoIP? Well, actually we know that it does, because handsets like these are “WiFi only”. They’re not mobile phones and can’t “dial-up” a gateway.
The interface is great, call quality is good and the client seems to work quite well. I just can’t understand why I can’t choose to use packet-switched VoIP Skype, as opposed to dial-up Skype.
Maybe it’s just me. I do get pedantic about these things sometimes. More testing to be done and more updates soon.
Australian Android Market · Google Android · Google Latitude · Google Phone · HTC Dream · Latitude · skype · Skype Lite Beta

Author comment by peterh_oz · June 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Gday Dr Ron
I have a fix for your skype-lite problem. Use FRING or NIMBUZZ. Both have skype built-in, and both use the proper voip client to make calls. They also have SIP plus their own client too (plus MSN, yahoo, ICQ, AIM and google-talk, but these are text-messaging/chat only).
Works like a dream (pardon the pun!) and is supported by many more handsets.
With the use of skype for calls and messaging, plus SIP for calls to landlines (untimed 10c calls are very widespread in Australia as you know), I have been able to slash my mobile phone bill by around 2/3rds.
Be aware that some mobile phone companies don’t allow SIP/VoIP (remember the Optus story late last year) but mine (Exetel) not only allows it, but encourages it. They tell their customers about fring and encourage its use. In fact the CEO brags about the fact he lives exclusively on fring/SIP on his mobile. They have even written their own client for SIP on nokia phones! One of the differences between a phone company which sells internet, and an ISP/Communications company I guess. One sells calls, the other sells communications.
Cheers
Peter H
SeeknBuy.com.au
(Exetel Agent N170)
Admin comment by Dr Ron · June 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Thanks for the update Peter. Unfortunately neither FRING nor NIMBUZZ are available in the Australian Android Market yet. I’ll keep trying though, FRING looks good, Graeme and Andrew were playing with it last night after the show.
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